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costaricafinca
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Posted: Tue May 16th, 2006 01:08 pm |
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I have just registered, and at the moment we are still 'considering' a reforestation project. We have a 250 acre farm, with lots of pasture in Guayabo de Bagaces, Guanacaste. In certain area there are many existing trees, but we would like to add many more.
This was, until recently a cattle farm but now with new ownership we are changing that. I have set up a small 'vivero' on the farm for seedlings, but would like to know where and if possible who can help supply cheap or preferably free seedlings to help with future expenses. As we are still at the discussion stage, there is the choice between only reforestation, and/or a plantation.
So, I would like any suggestions to help me get started.
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Fred Morgan
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Posted: Tue May 16th, 2006 01:31 pm |
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Hi,
The central office of MINAE is in Bagaces (for your area) - I would take a ride over to it and ask them about perhaps some free seedlings. Some have sources.
Also, they will know where you can buy them. You are on the otherside of the mountain from us - so I don't know any viveros on your side. However, MINAE surely will.
A seedling usually cost between 100 to 170 colones, 100 is usually teak, 170 is natives. The price difference is because natives have to be grown for about 16+ weeks before you plant - whereas teak is 6 weeks from seeds.
Sounds like an interesting project. In Guanacaste, you have several trees that will work well - that don't grow good quality wood on any other part of Costa Rica. A short list is:
1. Guanacaste
2. Zenicero
3. Pochote (Spiny Cedar)
4. Guianazo
Most of these are consider poor wood on our side - but your side, they become fine furniture wood. Also Guanacaste is a very good wildlife tree.
The biggest difference between reforestation and plantation is how much it will cost you each year. (you probably know that) Plantations are expensive - reforestation is inexpensive. The difference is that you don't care what the trees look like in reforestation - but plantation means that you are trying to raise high quality wood.
Sounds interesting - sometimes I have to go to the office in Bagaces - perhaps we will meet someday.
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costaricafinca
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Posted: Tue May 16th, 2006 04:02 pm |
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Thanks for replying to my post so quickly! While I have info on the Guanacaste, Pochote trees, and presently have both on the land, I cannot find much info on the other two, Zenicero, Guianazo. I did read, ....but now can't find it again..that one of these is the Monkey pod tree.
I have trying to identify the tree in the attachment, hopefully, someone knows it!
Attachment: tree2cr.JPG (Downloaded 48 times)
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Fred Morgan
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Posted: Tue May 16th, 2006 04:19 pm |
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You couldn't find them because I can't spell sometimes!
Gallinazo and Cenizaro
Lucia set me straight.
Lucia, do you recognize this tree?
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Luchy
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Posted: Tue May 16th, 2006 04:36 pm |
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You will find information if you try with the Scientific name better:
The species that Fred was mentioned are:
Cenizaro (Samanea saman) or (Pithecellobium saman)
Gallinazo (Schizolobium parahyba)
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costaricafinca
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Posted: Tue May 16th, 2006 05:29 pm |
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Thanks for the correct names. As mentioned, I had found one but nothing on the other. Is 'Schizolobium parahyba' one of the trees growing beside the road from Bagaces to Liberia? Not the Cana Vistula.
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Luchy
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Posted: Tue May 16th, 2006 06:00 pm |
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It is a good question! Both will confuse people who are not familiar to natives trees, and both have the same family, both have yellowhish flowers, but the gallinazo is taller than cassia fistula and the gallinazo's trunk is whiter and straight. Caña fistula is more an ornamental tree as it is well known arround the world, it is gorgeous.
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costaricafinca
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Posted: Tue May 16th, 2006 06:40 pm |
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There are so many similar trees, to the casual looker...like me.....it is hard to get them straight! I have presently many Caña fistula seeds starting, and I think they are one of the most beautiful trees ever!
I see the Tabebuia ochracea/Yellow cortez and the Cochlospermum vitifolium/Poro-poro when in bloom, and at a glance, look alike. Now this 'Schizolobium parahyba' to confuse me even further!
I gather you don't recognize the tree on the above posting? I have planted some seeds anyway, so hopefully, they will eventually have a name.
Last edited on Tue May 16th, 2006 08:01 pm by costaricafinca
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Fred Morgan
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Posted: Tue May 16th, 2006 07:37 pm |
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You mean you can't separate out the nearly 2,000 trees of Costa Rica? Join the club!
For example, I am told that there are about 30 trees in the family of Spanish Cedar.
Recently Lucia had to send away to have a tree identified - so don't feel too bad.
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Luchy
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Posted: Wed May 17th, 2006 03:49 am |
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As Fred said before, sometimes is hard to recognized our trees. so I consult to another colleague, (Manuel Viquez from elmundoforestal) and he knows really well that one, so he said it may be Sloanea terniflora, if is it you may be careful the fruits are covered with numerous irritating setae that detach easily, and can by harmful just getting close to it. So stay away from this one!!!
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costaricafinca
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Posted: Wed May 17th, 2006 01:40 pm |
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I don't think it is 'Sloanea terniflora' after looking at many photos. The one onthe left, is of 'Sloanea terniflorabu' by Robin Foster, the one on the right is mine, with a 'blurry' finger' for size.. The 'red dye' has washed off of the exposed seeds as it rained last night.
I will keep searching ...
Attachment: Unknown seed.JPG (Downloaded 4 times) Last edited on Wed May 17th, 2006 01:47 pm by costaricafinca
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Luchy
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Posted: Wed May 17th, 2006 09:03 pm |
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Here I'm again!! I sent both pictures to Ing. Viquez this morning, and here is his answer!!
[Good morning Lucía! Acording to the last two pictures that you sent to me, I do not know who will be Robin Foster?? but definitively their two photos correspond to very direfentes species. By the liltle that can be appreciated in the left photo, it is looked to me like Sloanea geniculata with very long great leaf and peciolo, and the one of the right without a doubt , yes it is Sloanea terniflora with smaller leaves, short peciolo, and with its small velvet fruits. It's closed. Good Luck!!!]
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costaricafinca
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Posted: Wed May 17th, 2006 10:52 pm |
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Thanks for your help.
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