But the point of this post is that there are many unintended consequences. There is no “denial industry” regarding global warming, because virtually every powerful vested interest gains from global warming alarm, including big oil.

Unintended consequences also exist with respect to land development. Often when you have a greenbelt around a city, you end up creating ultra-leapfrog development. This happened in London, where establishing the greenbelt around London stimulated growth in all the towns just beyond the greenbelt.

Zoning to restrict development also leads to artificially inflated home prices. This has been especially the case in California, where you have to be rich to truly afford a home.

My home is Toronto, a town suffering from massive urban sprawl. Most people live in single homes. Even though Toronto seems like a green city, it is very hard to find true nature. Most parks can be crossed on a bicycle within 3-5 minutes, barely enough to get the heart rate up. If I want to go somewhere outside the downtown core, I need to rely on private transportation. Last time I did a major trip on public transportation in Toronto, i took me 3.5 hours to get to my desination. Private transportation is expensive that I don’t want to pay for just to get around the city. Driving is extremely stressful (I didn’t realize this until I haven’t driven for two years.) and the roads of Toronto are heavily congested and traffic is unpredictable, thus I’m often late for appointments. People have swimming pools in their backyards, but yet again, a puddle that doesn’t provide a workout. There are few good hiking opportunities in Toronto. On the weekend people are busy fixing and cleaning up their homes. In Hong Kong I clean my pad for 1 hour and then it’s time to play.

On a recent trip to Vancouver I decided to go for a hike up the mountains on the North shore of town. My paths were blocked by private property that was spreading around the mountainside, taking the best sights of town.

National park areas are free for everyone to use, no matter religion, race, sex, etc. Free to go as your heart pleases. It’s private poperty that restricts freedom to the movement of people.

Ed “redwood” is right, and as Dr. Pierce says, Manzi really is clueless. Unfortunately, there are innumerable Al “chicken little” Gores out there who say there is no longer any doubt that the Earth is doomed because of anthropogenic CO2 emissions that are the cause of soon to be catatrophic global warming UNLESS we mend our fossil fuel using ways! (sorry, long sentence). To Ed’s point, big oil companies have not constructed any new refineries or drilled new oil wells offshore because of opposition by various environmental groups and EPA regulations that demand an environmental impact statement that may take 5 years or more to complete. After that, lawsuits follow. Why bother when you (oil companies) know you can sell all the oil and gasoline you have at high prices DUE to the lack of any new wells or refineries? $$$$$$. As a fellow PhD chemist, I think Harold Pierce and I would get along quite well and I would accept an invite to vivsit B.C. Please everyone read my two global warming essays on the Ecoworld site. Mr. Manzi might be surprised to find that the “hockey stick” paper by Michael Mann is a fraud. So much for “scientific” evidence used by the very political U.N. committee of pseudo scientists (IPCC) used to support the global warming fearmongering

Yes - Jim, I do. And from my perspective, I couldn’t care less who is in the White House in 2008. I’m not even sure I’d object to some scheme to keep the price of energy up, if the proceeds were used for things that mattered, like reforesting the tropics and cleaning up noxious pollutants. But instead we’re burning the biosphere, everywhere, for “biofuel” - it is the newest scourge on our planet, this biofuel - and we’re doing NOTHING to help the Chinese scrub their coal emissions because we actually think they’re going to stop burning coal, or - yeah, right - convince them to “sequester” the emissions.

Do you want to live in a world where central planners, in the name of environmentalist values, have made it so only the richest elites can still afford to have homes with yards, so sacred “open space” is preserved - under government management of course? Where energy and water is rationed, and everywhere, the industrial/prison glare of fluorescent lights is the only illumination we’re allowed after sundown? Because that’s where we’re headed - and you should be part of the fight to stop this hideous nonsense.

Your job, Mr. Manzi, should be to articulate environmentalist values that expose the hidden agendas of all of them - because all the elites win in this new game of global warming, big business and misanthropic socialist malthusians alike.

Jim Manzi

You are just as bad as Steve “Snip Snip” McIntyre and Roger “Razor Roger” Pielke, Sr. with your censorship of my posts. Where are your guts young man? I call ‘em as as see’em. Kirsten Byrnes ain’t pulling no punches! And neither should you.

Why did I call Jim Manzi a “clueless jerk” because that is exactly what he is. With all the the resources available to him, he just didn’t do his homework or seek out experts such as Roy Spencer who could explain to him why present data do not show that any global warming or climate change has actually ocurred. He could also explain to him all the trickery and flim-flammery the IPPC uses to promote the hypothesis that greenhouse gases cause cause global warming.

Here is a simple example of flim-flammery. You read in the popular press that the IPPC estimates that the mean global temperature has increased by about 0.6 +/- 0.2 deg C since 1990. What is this number and what does it really mean. To the non-scientist it probably looks OK. But to a scientists who measures temperature routinely, he would say “You have got to be kidding me. Weather stations use thermometers that can be read to +/- 0.1 deg? Give me a break!”

What the number really means is this: It is the range of global mean temperatures that the various “bookeeping” methods give after crunching a century of station temperature records. What the IPPC did not report is the standard deviation. For the station temperature records that I have examined the standard deviations range from about +/- 1 deg to +/- 8 deg. The latter is for the station at Telluride, CO. This is why most all meterologists reject the claims of those climatologists supporting global warming that station temperature records can be as input for their computer models.

Here is what I posted on Steve “Snip Snip” M’s site: Sniff, I smell massage oil! Sniff, Sniff, Or Maybe snake oil! Sniff, Sniff, Sniff, Whoa! It is a blend of massage oil and snake oil! Sniff, Sniff…Sniff, Sniff. And it is mostly snake oil! He snipped it, but Razor Roger didn’t when I posted it on his site!

You have a nice day. I’ve got to crunch some more weather station temperature records. I have finished weather station code named Diddly Squat 1. BTW, The results are for sale. My asking price is one million dollars!!!

Go learn some chemistry. In 1990 the concentration of carbon dioxide in standard dry air was 0.028% by volume, i.e., diddly squat! Presently the concentration of carbon dioxide in the aforementioned standard dry air is 0.038%, diddly squat. If diddly squat did diddly prior and up to 1900, diddly squat is doing diddly now!!

Go to: http://www.uigi.com/air.html and learn something about the atmosphere. Ignore all comments about global warming.

Go to: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~ponderthemaunder/index.html

A brillant 15-year high schooler, Kirsten Byrnes has got it absolutely right. And she shall bring down Don Al Gore and white-coated wiseguy Jim “Jimmy White Coat” Hansen.

The proposal that greenhouse gases cause global warming is a scam divised by Don Al “Fat Al” Gore, Godfather of the American Enviromental Mafia, Ken Lay, et al to get filthy rich by setting up these companies that trade carbon credits. Here is how they did this.

The 1997 Koyoto Accord target for greenhouse emission reduction were set at 5% below that of 1990. Why were these numbers chosen? The oil embargoes of the early 1970’s was the wake up call on energy use. By 1990 the engineers had eliminated inefficient use in industry and commerace and in new residental construction. Thus the corrupt pinstripes and white-coated wiseguys knew with absolute certainity that these targets could never ever be met by a county no matter what technologies were implemented. Hence, enter Don Al Gore and his capos on Wall Steet. Hence enter Don Al Gore’s purchase of white-coated wiseguy and enforcer Jim Hansen. Hence the award of a really big can of Heinz beans to him to secure his loyalty and promote him as an as accomplished scientist. In acadamia we another name for these wiseguys: white-coated welfare queens.

As they say up here in Canada, Smarten up Jimmy!

Harold Pierce Jr, B.Sc.(Hon), Ph.D.

PS: Don’t ever mess around with us chemists especially this one!

http://planetgore.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YjFiMDdiYzRmMjkzZGIyNjVjNjhkZDgzODMwYzU1ZTM=

and here (part 2):

http://planetgore.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTE3NTliYTA4YTUzNjkzMzg4NzIzYzg5YjJhMWY2NDA=