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	<title>Comments on: Biofuel vs. Photovoltaics</title>
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		<title>By: Steve Silos</title>
		<link>http://www.ecoworld.com/blog/2006/06/15/solar-power-biofuel-vs-photovoltaics/comment-page-1/#comment-92182</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Silos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question is whether or not we choose to eradicate our life on this planet or not before the sun implodes some billion years from today.

If we stick to the combustion engine as is we will certainly not.

Solar energy is clearly the most rational way to go.

We already have the technology to do so. Economics in its full contextual consideration (i.e., including the value of our environment) is no obstacle.  At least we could start by installing solar energy for all households thus relaxing on the use of combustion engines when generating electric energy.

It is consumer demand that drives all improvements. Consumer demand is influenced by knowledge. Knowledge is disseminated by society.  Society delegates this function and many other collective responsibilities to its elected government who receives all the means (apparatus) to arrange for such.

Policies are thus set by government.  The question is; does the education policy set by the elected government disseminate the information, "the knowledge" about the alternative energy route to walk?

What does government inform you about solar energy and fuel cell?  Does government use all means available to create sufficient incentives to encourage society to walk the alternative energy route? 

At the end of the day it is the development of and the adherence to quality legislation (international treaties, as well as domestic laws) that determines the level of sophistication of government’s education policy.

We have to assure ourselves whether the ones we hire after they have solicited publically for the job of taking care of collective responsibility matters truly fulfill their duties.

By reminding everyone about the necessity to continuously fulfill the constant expanding need (demand) for relevant information c.q. knowledge, you contribute to the improvement of the dissemination of knowledge.


What does your government inform you about solar energy and fuel cell?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question is whether or not we choose to eradicate our life on this planet or not before the sun implodes some billion years from today.</p>
<p>If we stick to the combustion engine as is we will certainly not.</p>
<p>Solar energy is clearly the most rational way to go.</p>
<p>We already have the technology to do so. Economics in its full contextual consideration (i.e., including the value of our environment) is no obstacle.  At least we could start by installing solar energy for all households thus relaxing on the use of combustion engines when generating electric energy.</p>
<p>It is consumer demand that drives all improvements. Consumer demand is influenced by knowledge. Knowledge is disseminated by society.  Society delegates this function and many other collective responsibilities to its elected government who receives all the means (apparatus) to arrange for such.</p>
<p>Policies are thus set by government.  The question is; does the education policy set by the elected government disseminate the information, &#8220;the knowledge&#8221; about the alternative energy route to walk?</p>
<p>What does government inform you about solar energy and fuel cell?  Does government use all means available to create sufficient incentives to encourage society to walk the alternative energy route? </p>
<p>At the end of the day it is the development of and the adherence to quality legislation (international treaties, as well as domestic laws) that determines the level of sophistication of government’s education policy.</p>
<p>We have to assure ourselves whether the ones we hire after they have solicited publically for the job of taking care of collective responsibility matters truly fulfill their duties.</p>
<p>By reminding everyone about the necessity to continuously fulfill the constant expanding need (demand) for relevant information c.q. knowledge, you contribute to the improvement of the dissemination of knowledge.</p>
<p>What does your government inform you about solar energy and fuel cell?</p>
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		<title>By: stephen miller</title>
		<link>http://www.ecoworld.com/blog/2006/06/15/solar-power-biofuel-vs-photovoltaics/comment-page-1/#comment-81894</link>
		<dc:creator>stephen miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 23:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the Living Algae Machine by engineer Alphonz Veszolay which we are setting up at Ecoversity in Santa Fe- a promising path for small scale production of oil, biodiesel, and protein cake. (http://ecoversity.org)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the Living Algae Machine by engineer Alphonz Veszolay which we are setting up at Ecoversity in Santa Fe- a promising path for small scale production of oil, biodiesel, and protein cake. (http://ecoversity.org)</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Catino</title>
		<link>http://www.ecoworld.com/blog/2006/06/15/solar-power-biofuel-vs-photovoltaics/comment-page-1/#comment-1385</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Catino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 00:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have already figured out how to convert massive amounts of CO2 into massive amounts of algae/acre &amp; algae into massive amounts of biofuel...all inside a CO2 Bioreactor

http://www.gs-cleantech.com/product_desc.php?mode=3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have already figured out how to convert massive amounts of CO2 into massive amounts of algae/acre &amp; algae into massive amounts of biofuel&#8230;all inside a CO2 Bioreactor</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gs-cleantech.com/product_desc.php?mode=3" rel="nofollow">http://www.gs-cleantech.com/product_desc.php?mode=3</a></p>
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		<title>By: Duane Navarre</title>
		<link>http://www.ecoworld.com/blog/2006/06/15/solar-power-biofuel-vs-photovoltaics/comment-page-1/#comment-1373</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane Navarre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 01:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Algae Solution:

http://www.unh.edu/p2/biodiesel/article_alge.html

They just need a way to seal the track ponds to stop 
massive evaporation, and then use a solar powered 
crawler to process the algae, and return it in place.

Scaling this across any areas in the country that are 
largely unused and have high sun profile.

12% of the sonora desert could in theory replace all 
foreign and domestic fossil oil needs.

It would overnight make the middle east worthless.

If the oil companies would get onboard with this now
they could run the operation and still make their billions
AND not have to buy it from the middle east at all.

Also VW has a 99 mpg diesel Lupo right now, imagine it 
as a plug in hybrid for in city slow rush hour traffic.

onsiterepair@yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Algae Solution:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.unh.edu/p2/biodiesel/article_alge.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.unh.edu/p2/biodiesel/article_alge.html</a></p>
<p>They just need a way to seal the track ponds to stop<br />
massive evaporation, and then use a solar powered<br />
crawler to process the algae, and return it in place.</p>
<p>Scaling this across any areas in the country that are<br />
largely unused and have high sun profile.</p>
<p>12% of the sonora desert could in theory replace all<br />
foreign and domestic fossil oil needs.</p>
<p>It would overnight make the middle east worthless.</p>
<p>If the oil companies would get onboard with this now<br />
they could run the operation and still make their billions<br />
AND not have to buy it from the middle east at all.</p>
<p>Also VW has a 99 mpg diesel Lupo right now, imagine it<br />
as a plug in hybrid for in city slow rush hour traffic.</p>
<p><a href="mailto:onsiterepair@yahoo.com">onsiterepair@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dana Shields</title>
		<link>http://www.ecoworld.com/blog/2006/06/15/solar-power-biofuel-vs-photovoltaics/comment-page-1/#comment-1326</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops. There it is. At the bottom...sometimes the answer isn't on the surface!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops. There it is. At the bottom&#8230;sometimes the answer isn&#8217;t on the surface!</p>
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		<title>By: Dana Shields</title>
		<link>http://www.ecoworld.com/blog/2006/06/15/solar-power-biofuel-vs-photovoltaics/comment-page-1/#comment-1325</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that in articles such as these, aquatic species for biofuels are utterly ignored. It doesn't take much to figure out that square footage calculations for land-based crops transform into cubic feet in water. 

To my knowledge, there's nothing that could compete with algae or plankton if we learn the simple task of harvesting it. (and for heaven's sake, you'd assume that a 200 years after the cotton gin was invented, someone could solve a problem this simple.)

But this aspect of the equation is always blushed over as if it weren't even a possibility, and we blithely move on without even asking the simplest questions.

Shame on us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that in articles such as these, aquatic species for biofuels are utterly ignored. It doesn&#8217;t take much to figure out that square footage calculations for land-based crops transform into cubic feet in water. </p>
<p>To my knowledge, there&#8217;s nothing that could compete with algae or plankton if we learn the simple task of harvesting it. (and for heaven&#8217;s sake, you&#8217;d assume that a 200 years after the cotton gin was invented, someone could solve a problem this simple.)</p>
<p>But this aspect of the equation is always blushed over as if it weren&#8217;t even a possibility, and we blithely move on without even asking the simplest questions.</p>
<p>Shame on us.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.ecoworld.com/blog/2006/06/15/solar-power-biofuel-vs-photovoltaics/comment-page-1/#comment-1221</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 01:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good news.  Charging times under 5 minutes have been demonstrated already.  It's just a question of economy of scale. http://neasia.nikkeibp.com/topstory/000881</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good news.  Charging times under 5 minutes have been demonstrated already.  It&#8217;s just a question of economy of scale. <a href="http://neasia.nikkeibp.com/topstory/000881" rel="nofollow">http://neasia.nikkeibp.com/topstory/000881</a></p>
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		<title>By: e</title>
		<link>http://www.ecoworld.com/blog/2006/06/15/solar-power-biofuel-vs-photovoltaics/comment-page-1/#comment-691</link>
		<dc:creator>e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 05:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great point.  I believe that biodiesel is a good supplement today but not a long term solution.  Implementation is very easy compared to solar cells as well.  I guess if we converted solar energy to a more portable form (e.g. fuel cells) then cars could make better use.  As far as I remember batteries still lack the capacity to go 1000's of miles on a charge, until stations were common, or posses the ability to recharge in under 5 minutes (maybe zinc-air).  Maybe by time we figure this part out, we will have figured out new algae hybrids, and crop production techniques to increase biodiesel efficiency another 20 times.  Until then, solar could be a real good channel of fuel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point.  I believe that biodiesel is a good supplement today but not a long term solution.  Implementation is very easy compared to solar cells as well.  I guess if we converted solar energy to a more portable form (e.g. fuel cells) then cars could make better use.  As far as I remember batteries still lack the capacity to go 1000&#8217;s of miles on a charge, until stations were common, or posses the ability to recharge in under 5 minutes (maybe zinc-air).  Maybe by time we figure this part out, we will have figured out new algae hybrids, and crop production techniques to increase biodiesel efficiency another 20 times.  Until then, solar could be a real good channel of fuel.</p>
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